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How Project Brazen builds huge audiences for its narrative podcasts

The startup operates almost like a movie studio in how it produces shows.

Simon Owens
Aug 15, 2024
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At a time when much of the podcast industry is retreating from narrative storytelling, Project Brazen is doubling down.

The broader market has moved in the opposite direction. High-budget narrative series — once the prestige format of podcasting — have increasingly fallen out of favor with platforms and media companies. They’re expensive to produce, difficult to scale, and harder to monetize than the industry’s dominant format: conversational shows built around recognizable hosts.

And yet, Project Brazen has managed to consistently launch narrative series that break through the noise and climb the charts. The company, founded by former Wall Street Journal reporters Bradley Hope and Tom Wright, has quietly built a system for developing, producing, and — most critically — marketing these shows in a way that gives them a fighting chance in an unforgiving market.

Rather than operating like a traditional media outlet, Project Brazen functions more like a studio — one that treats each podcast as a piece of intellectual property that can extend far beyond audio.

That shift in mindset — from “podcast publisher” to “IP studio” — underpins nearly every strategic decision the company makes.

In an interview, co-founder Hope walked through every aspect of its marketing strategy, including Project Brazen’s pre-launch checklist, its approach to public relations, and how it leverages its own growing network to boost a new show.

From Investigative Journalism to an IP Studio Model

Project Brazen emerged out of the reporting partnership between Hope and Wright, who spent years collaborating at The Wall Street Journal before co-authoring the book Billion Dollar Whale. That project provided the blueprint for what would come next: deeply reported, narrative-driven stories that could live across multiple formats.

Rather than building a newsroom with a large staff and a steady publishing cadence, the company took a more modular approach. Each project is developed individually, often in collaboration with freelance journalists, documentary producers, or other external partners.

“I think of us as a commercial business that’s very focused on finding and creating original stories that unfold in different mediums,” Hope explained.

This distinction is critical. Project Brazen is not trying to win the daily news cycle or build habitual consumption through volume. Instead, it is focused on identifying stories that are strong enough to justify significant investment — stories that can be adapted into podcasts, documentaries, books, and potentially film or television projects.

In practice, that means fewer projects, but far more deliberate ones.

“We’re not making lots of things all the time. We’re making a few things well,” Hope said.

Story First, Topic Second

One of the company’s most defining editorial decisions is its refusal to chase topics.

In a media landscape where outlets often prioritize coverage areas — tech, politics, business — Project Brazen starts from a different premise entirely: the story.

“We never worry about a topic,” Hope said. “We’re just looking for, ‘Have you heard the story of this person?’”

This approach has several strategic advantages. First, it ensures that every project is inherently narrative-driven, with characters and stakes that can sustain longform storytelling. Second, it increases the likelihood that the story can travel across formats, since character-led narratives are more adaptable than abstract subject matter.

It also aligns with a broader insight about audience behavior.

“People don’t want to listen to an encyclopedic entry about furries,” Hope noted. “They want to be drawn in by a person… and let that be the way they learn about the subject.”

In other words, Project Brazen is optimizing for how audiences actually consume information: through story, not exposition.

The “Big Machine”: Systematizing Narrative Production

If the company’s editorial instincts are rooted in journalism, its production process is increasingly engineered.

Over time, Project Brazen has developed what it calls a “big machine” — a detailed, step-by-step system that governs everything from early development to launch.

“It’s essentially a very detailed checklist… dozens and dozens of steps,” Hope said.

At the center of this process is an unusual practice: creating a “sizzle” or rough trailer at the very beginning of a project. This early artifact helps the team define the tone, structure, and narrative arc before the full production is complete.

In effect, the trailer becomes both a creative North Star and a marketing asset.

“We almost make the trailer before we make the show,” Hope said.

This dual-purpose approach reflects a broader philosophy inside the company: production and marketing are not separate functions. They are intertwined from the outset.

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